Well, my July 4th river rafting plans got washed out. I was up for the challenge even if it wasn’t perfectly sunny, but the venue shut down for the day due to thunderstorms. Safety first, and given my recent track record, it would be just my luck to be hit by lightning. It was a fun weekend even if things didn’t go exactly as planned and we have made arrangements to use our rafting raincheck next month.
So since I don’t have any photos or wild tales from the river to share with you, it’s back to on topic spanking related posts. Recently I wrote about panty selection and preferences - a topic which seems to becoming a recurring theme on my blog. Inspired by a comment left by Southern Expat, I thought I’d blog about my pet peeves in relation to undies. These are just my personal viewpoints which you may or may not agree with, so I encourage you to discuss your own preferences in the comments section.
1. Panty Tags
Despite it being my number one pet peeve, I’m as guilty as anyone about forgetting to cut the tags out of my panties before a scene. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve wanted to smack myself (on the forehead, Homer style) when I’ve realized that I have the annoying little size and materials tag waving around with each spank. I find it very distracting especially if the panties are tugged down to just below the cheeks and the tag is sticking straight up in the way of the bottom crease. Tagless panties would seem to be a simple solution for forgetful people like me, but the printing then stamped on the inside often shows right through the material which almost earns its own spot on my list.
2. Hanging Panties
I do not like when panties, particularly larger brief style ones, are tugged down and allowed to hang loosely. In direct conflict perhaps with Southern Expat, I actually prefer the panties to get rolled or bunched up. I like the clean, horizontal line rather than having the panties hang down like a flag covering the legs.
This picture is the best example I can find right now. The panties are not completely unbunched, but they are hanging down a little too much for my taste. Yes, that’s me in the picture, once again going against my own prefence!!
3. Caught Panties
Sometimes in a rush to get the undies down and begin or return to the spanking, the panties get caught between the girl’s legs. The elastic waistband is now sitting at an acceptable mid-thigh, but the crotch remains unmoved resulting in the panties not only being pulled down and stretched out to full length (see pet peeve above) but now they are inside out to boot.
4. Baggy Satin Sting Bikini Panties
I used to wear satin bikini cut panties nearly exclusively. I thought they were pretty and the material feels so nice and smooth as my outwear glides over my undies. But then I realized that the particular brand and style of panties I wore looked baggy in the back. The material covering my bottom had no stretch to it and the elastic strings had a bit too much resulting in a poofy chef’s hat appearance. While I still prefer satin panties over cotton, I pay much more attention to finding ones that fit snuggly and do not occlude the curvature of the bottom.
That is Richard Windsor spanking my chef hat style panty clad bottom in this picture. Richard also has mentioned his preference for satin panties, but I’m not sure if he’s as picky as me about the poof factor. I suppose if he’s bothered, that only gives him an excuse to take the panties down sooner!!
5. String Tie Bikini Panties
Even though this style of panties is usually made of cotton, they present a similar problem as the satin string bikinis. This time there is no elastic in the ties, but still too little of a stretch over the bottom. No matter how tight you pull the ties, the panties will not fit snugly over the bottom and they bunch as you walk. Plus, the ties have a habit of coming undone unless you put in a permanent double knot … and if you do, well, good luck in getting those panties down again when you need to given there is no stretchy elastic at the waist. It’s such a shame as they look so cute. Just not on my bottom.
Although I could go on, I think I’ll stop here. I’ve already proven I think about panties way too much, but given how often I show my panty covered bottom and how much time I spend editing photos of other girls’ bums, I suppose it stands to reason.
I’ve noticed in writing about my pet peeves that while I don’t have a strong preference regarding panty placement (I think panties covering the bottom, pulled just below the cheeks, at mid-thigh, at the knees, at the ankles, and completely off all have their charm), I am fussy about how they lay. No bagging, tagging, or hanging down please. :) As I mentioned near the start of this post though, these are simply my own personal likes and dislikes, not hard and fast rules (especially since I’m guilty of breaking every single one), so please feel free to share your opinion and preferences in the comments section.
July 7th, 2008 - 12:14 pm
A lot of good panty insights, Pix, as usual. I had never even thought about most of them, but they all make sense. #2 is one that I would never have even articulated as a clear thought, but you’re right: It just doesn’t look good somehow when the fabric is flopping around like that.
As a spanking enthusiast, I’d have to say my personal #1 pet peeve would be thongs, but I think you might have already covered that topic a while back. They just spoil the fun somehow, by making the pulling down unnecessary. On one of my adult “niece’s” visits, she knew she was due for a real punishment spanking, and told me in advance that she had started wearing thongs since she last saw me; she thought they would be convenient for when her spanking time came. It just wasn’t the same — for me, at least — and I remember at one point taking them down anyway, I guess for symbolic value.
There’s just something more charming about panties that cover most of the cheeks … until the panties inevitably come down, that is!
Jeff
July 7th, 2008 - 12:50 pm
Hi Pixie,
I feel the same way you do about a panty tag sticking up. It’s hard to ignore when it’s the only drawback to an otherwise excellent image. Happily, I don’t see it all that often.
As for where a naughty girl’s panties should be, I just revisited two delightful shots of you being spanked otk by Veronica and by Chelsea. In each case, your panties are gathered at your knees. Perfect positioning. The fact that I can still see them allows me to enjoy the reality of their having been forcibly taken down for a bare bottom spanking. But they’re also nicely sort of off to the side and in no way a distraction.
I know it’s a different topic, but tattoos irritate me far more often than the disposition of the panties. Another one of the blessings of your artistry, Pixie: no tattoos!!!
Love your work,
Brucie
July 7th, 2008 - 2:27 pm
Pixie,
Another interesting post. In my view, panties serve as visual stimulation during the initial spanking or you might say they are a tasty appetizer before the main course is served. However, as a spanker, once the panties are lowered, I find no useful purpose in leaving them dangling. So I prefer panties being removed completely during a bare bottom spanking.
Bottoms Up,
Steve
July 7th, 2008 - 2:35 pm
I have a different panty pet peeve. My pet peeve is women who say they wear thongs so that they don’t have visible panty lines. Yea right, that’s about as believable as guys saying they read a certain publication just for the articles. Women wear thongs to be naughty or to feel naughty! And how many women make sure that they “accidentally” let the very top of their thong peak out of their jeans? Proper young women need to be much more concerned with “whale tail” than visible panty lines!
July 7th, 2008 - 4:15 pm
When shooting scenes, I think that one or two of your peeves could be avoided by ensuring that the top always pays proper attention to the lowering of the panties – keeping tags out of sight, and making sure they are neatly bunched around the thighs.
For me, the slow and deliberate pulling down of the panties during a spanking produces more dramatic effect than grabbing and yanking them. The bottom is being carefully prepared for what is about to follow.
I’d be curious to know how this affects the anticipation felt by the spankee. Does it make any difference to you if there is a fast yank-down or a slow lowering?
July 7th, 2008 - 5:38 pm
Oh my, everyone, including you Pixie, of course, has a good point to make. I, too, hate thongs. But, lately my husband has been telling me to allow girls the occasional chance to wear them, just for variety’s sake. Tags are unfortunate, it’s true. I wish I could say that I’m always careful as to whether or not the woman I’m about so spank has removed hers. I usually remember to remove my own because that little tag itches that little spot on my lower back all day long if I don’t. Talk about pet peeves!!
But, my biggest pet peeve concerning panties is when they aren’t properly removed. I just HATE it when they aren’t pulled down enough, i.e., they’re taken down to just below the buttocks. I have allowed that mistake to happen now and then in my own productions. Still, that just sucks! Sometimes it even causes the panties to hide the, uh, meow meow, the site of which is one of the great side benefits of panty removal in the first place. Plus, they then sometimes even get in the way of the spanking and break up the visual beauty of two perfectly round bottom globes. Just my opinion, but please, please take them down to at least the lower thigh area, or preferably the knees and even all the way off if the scene calls for it.
July 8th, 2008 - 1:12 am
I’m surprised that no one’s made the obvious comment, perhaps because it’s too boorish : Just take them off all-together
I can’t imagine how many archived photos you went through to illustrate your points. Very impressive. 
There was a ShadowLane party one time where a brat deliberately sewed 50+ tags inside one pair of panties because her spanker hated the sight of them. It was a riot. Another great update.
July 8th, 2008 - 5:47 am
tim avery interesting post pixie i have heard in some girls in england the uniform includes knicker liners worn in the school knickers i agree with chelsea her comments by the way ingoodspanking classics instead of spanked by a stranger therewas a repear of grease monkeys part one love from tim
July 8th, 2008 - 6:49 am
What an enlightening post, as usual! I guess we all have our very specific aesthetic preferences about panties. I never thought about the tag issue, since that’s usually not a problem with men’s underwear.
I think I prefer cotton panties unrolled rather than rolled, so that they keep the round butt shape even when lowered. (Probably this requires the model’s legs to be spread a bit.) But I see what you mean about not wanting them to hang down like a flag. You definitely don’t want it to look like you pooped in your pants!
July 8th, 2008 - 11:52 am
Way to go, Tim, as clear as Afghani
Not only was that the first ever spanking pic that I was in but it also remains one of my favorites.
As for pet peeves, #3 is a huge one for me. Whenever I watch a spanking scene, if the top doesn’t do their job correctly and leaves the panties as you mentioned, I cringe like I am looking at one of Skanky’s pics
It looks tacky, really unladylike, and you know darn well the spankee is trying to move to free them. It is so easy to roll the panties down, then once they clear the butt you just give them a swift tug.
Houndog.
July 8th, 2008 - 6:40 pm
“I’ve already proven I think about panties way too much…”
Not for my taste, Pixie. Your posts on the subject are always interesting, enlightening, and fun. By all means, keep ‘em coming!
I, too, dislike those tags, especially when they protrude between the legs just below the bottom crease because the panties have only been tugged down to the top of the thighs. (Worse, I think, is when the panties are actually inside out, and inner seams are also visible.) Like the puffy bulge in your pic of the satin panties, there are certain images that are just not appealing. ‘Nuff said.
I agree that it’s a real shame string-tie panties are so difficult to work with, as they can be appealing on a number of levels. Those little bows present an irresistible invitation to be untied (now *there’s* a transfer of power image), thus taking an over-panties spanking down to the bare. Perhaps the string-tie bikini style could still be utilized if they were limited to bathing suits, possibly under a T-shirt or sundress, in straight-to-the-bare scenes to avoid the logistical problems that come with pulling down clothing tied tightly enough to keep it up.
Hmmm, maybe a scene where the girl must raise her sundress or T-shirt (mostly in back where the camera is), and the suit is untied and dropped to the floor? That would eliminate having one’s “bits” in the face of the spanker yet still satisfy the realistic component of a familial discipline scene mentioned in an earlier post.
As for fabrics, I’ve been told that satin, nylon, and the thinner weave of cotton (Pima?) actually permits more of the smack from a hand or implement to be felt through them than do the regular (combed) cotton panties, like Hanes Her Way. In other than video productions, there are plenty of times, especially in familial discipline, where it is unnecessary to take a spanking beyond the panties as long as the message is getting through. I’ve often wondered why, when more than one spanking is to be shot in a story, all of them are the same old progressive (outerwear to) panties to bare. Why not vary things once in a while and pull up a skirt or take the pants down, spank her on her panties and send her off? If it’s sharp enough, it’ll whet the appetite for the harder spanking in the next scene. (Not criticism, just curiousity.)
July 8th, 2008 - 8:19 pm
A very interesting and fun topic. Most of us, like myself, are required to wear a certain type of panty when we are about to spend time OTK. I’m usually in a plain cotton brief that is very comfortable but one thing I have not seen mentioned is when I beg not to have them pulled down and the spanker complies by pulling them together in the middle and them pulls them up into the crack of my behind and then spanks my bare cheeks while telling me he did what I asked … lol
July 9th, 2008 - 7:58 am
Just to clarify: I meant that the model had actually put her panties on inside out.
Also, I know that PB doesn’t shoot those lengthier stories, or break a scene into separate spankings on the same model (is the latter an option to even consider?), so maybe the answer would have to derive from your experience on other shoots.
July 9th, 2008 - 8:48 am
SORRY I MADE SUCH A MESS OF MY LAST COMMENTS VERY PLEASED TO SEE CHLOE BACK ON P.B. SUCH A LOVELY SPANKEE LOVE FROM TIM
July 9th, 2008 - 4:39 pm
Hmm! An interesting entry - and one which evidently occupies the minds of many. My preference is for a pair of panties which cover the bottom and show its shape - but I have no real knowledge of materials! I remember way back in my teens being told by someone that silk underwear took some of the sting out of a caning - but have no personal knowledge to verify that. I hate seeing thongs or conevtional pantioes showing above the waist-line of the skirt or trousers - in real life that seems to have acquired a fashion status, but it is always ugly and hideous. I don’t like thongs anyway and imagine that wearing them must be most uncomfortable. I agree with Linde that panties pulled up into the crack expose a perfectly acceptable bare bottom ready for spanking - though Chelsea P does have a point:-)
When lowered, I agree that a straight line rather than a shape that suggests garments hanging on a washing line is aesthetically more appealing - but if they are lowered too far and not removed they can restrict the spankee’s ability to put her feet apart, and that is ofetn quite appealing also. Actually I think I am wih you on most points. Oh yes - and the part-lined English school knickers are a real distraction - more so than tags (which are an irritation!) Thaks again for a blog to make one think!
July 10th, 2008 - 8:23 pm
Jeff - Yep, the thong issue is so big that it’s had its own blog post but the topic always seems to come up in panty posts. It’s always a hot topic.
Brucie - Tattoos are a topic that I’ve started writing a post about but have not finished it. I’m going to take time and care with it as I think that one will open up a whole other can of worms. Keep an eye out for it coming soon though.
Steve - All the way off is certainly one way to avoid hanging panties, but I know there are many that are very interested in seeing the panties placed carefully at various spots along the legs or like to see the girl’s feet get tangled in them as she kicks. I usually prefer to have them on so that I can tug them back up after my spanking. The exception to this is when I’m able to kick my panties off during the spanking - the best was when I once managed to fling them slingshot style across the room.
Alan - Ok, I admit that I’ve worn thongs for both purposes. Sometimes both purposes at the same time.
Steve (UK) - Yes, some of the pet peeves can be avoided by the spanker ensuring that the panties are properly placed, rolled, tucked, etc. but there is so much for the spanker to worry about at the same time (remembering or coming up with dialogue, giving a good spanking, holding the girl in position, keeping the shirt held down if back tattoos need to be covered, positioning for the camera, and more) that sometimes just slip by.
I actually prefer the fast yank as I feel it is more disciplinary where as the slow lowering comes across to me as more sensual/erotic/sexual which isn’t my personal preference in most spankings.
Chelsea - I was thinking about trying to add some thongs into our scenes too even though they aren’t my cup of tea, but after the strong anti-thong feedback, I think we’ll stick with the fuller cuts.
I agree about the panty placement. The only thing I can think of as to why it happens is that the spanker’s point of few is from over top and so maybe it doesn’t appear to block the roundness of the cheeks and other bits as much as it does from up there. Mid-thigh is much safer, but sometimes calling a cut on a scene that is otherwise going well is a shame. A related pet-peeve is “magically” lowering panties where one second they are up too high and the next thing you know, they are down without it being shown how they got there.
007 - LOL!! What a wonderful brat trick!! I’ll have to remember that one.
tim - knicker liners?? I’m not sure I want to know.
Southern Expat - Thank you for inspiring this lively post!
Houndog - You are too flippin’ funny!!! And you are so right about the girl often trying to free herself from the caught panties. Probably look like we’re doing some sort of swimming exercise outside of the water.
Dreams of Horses - I think if we tried to do a scene where the panties stay up the whole time, we would get some negative feedback. Members don’t like when even a thong is worn because it’s not a true bare bottom (this is something I also have heard from other industry folk at other companies), so wearing something that is a fuller cut the whole scene would probably not go over well. We are incorporating more straight to the bare bottom scenes rather than just progressive spankings now, but that’s a complete 180 from panties up the whole time.
Linde - Yipes!! What a mean, but rather ingenious, thing to do!
Winchester - Personally I find thongs indeed uncomfortable and a bikini panty forced into mimicking a thong is even worse! And while I find panties at the ankles during an OTK spanking irritating, there is always that hope of a slingshot fling. I may have to practice that.